We’ve been hanging with Dillon Perillo a bunch lately to film some pieces and he’s such a surreal conversationalist. Sometimes his lips move and you think, “This person belongs at MIT,” and other times you think, “This person belongs somewhere safe where there’s nothing hot or sharp.” But we always have a nice time with Dillon. We grabbed some bits of conversation off the floor leftover from filming. This is what it’s like to talk with him.

Here he is with What Youth’s Travis Ferré on the patio back at Dillon’s house in Malibu.

Travis: Did you grow up here your whole life?

Dillon: I moved up here when I was 10. This is where I learned how to surf.

Travis: This wave right here?

Dillon: Yeah, I started out longboarding.

Travis: Longboarding.

Dillon: I didn’t longboard like Julian did, I just longboarded.

Travis: Out here?

Dillon: See that rock out there? It breaks kinda out there.

Travis: Do any people surf it?

Dillon: Yeah, it’s like the standup wave of Malibu.

Travis: This is?

Dillon: Yeah, on the weekend, there are so many standup surfers.

Travis: Do people post up on these beaches?

Dillon: It’s like a private street. The closest street is, see those blue houses at the end of the staircase? Then around that point, there’s like a bunch of nice houses. That’s where that one guy from Die Hard…

Travis: Bruce Willis?

Dillon: Yeah, I’ve seen him on the beach. The girl from Swordfish…

Travis: Halle Berry.

Dillon: Halle Berry, she’s sat on this wall before. I was sitting on the beach, drinking beers, just cruising, and then she came up here with her kids, and they sat on the wall.

Travis: You should have been like, “This is private property.”

Dillon: Yeah, “Excuse me.” It’s a super random beach. All this road, all these people who live here have been here for years, like family generations. You could see Cher’s house, it’s just right there.

Travis: Cher? Which one, the pink one? Weird.

Dillon: Pamela Anderson used to live in one of those beach houses over there. You know the show Two and a Half Men?

Travis: Yeah.

Dillon: They always show a view, like, the show’s supposed to take place on Point Dune over there. That’s where they filmed it, in one of those houses.

Travis: You have it so hard here.